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Post by Netminder30 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:48 am

Ciao, tutti! :D

As I have stated in a previous post, I will be traveling to Italy in late December (arriving the 21st and departing the 29th). I am taking a 10 day bus tour with Cosmo called the Splendors of Italy. I don't have a detailed itinerary yet, but I will be spending most of the time in Rome, Florence and Venice. There will also be stops between the major cities including Viterbo, Orvieto, Siena, San Gimignano, Greve, Pisa and Assisi.

I would really appreciate receiving suggestions about places to see and things to do, do's and don'ts, what to wear (what will the weather be like in December?) and any other travel tips. Much of my time will be spent in structured tours, but there should be plenty of free time to explore as well. I am particularly interested in suggestions for how to spend Christmas.

This will be my first Christmas away from home and family (although my daughter will be making the trip with me) and I'm excited about the idea of seeing how the holiday is observed in Italy. I will be in Florence for Christmas day. Any thoughts on how to maximize the holiday experience in Florence?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

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Post by Roby » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:13 am

Netminder 30,

I have been to Florence, Venice, Rome,Siena, and San Gimignano Regarding what to wear in December, especially around Christmas, you can add the weather information to your yahoo account at the beginning of the login... or here is a site. http://weather.yahoo.com/img/eur_italy_ ... mdy_y.html
or http://www.weather.com However, one never knows the forcast exactly.

From the looks of where you are going you will be in the Tuscany area which is in central Italy. Being that it is winter, I would definitely pack:

*a winter jacket, gloves, scarfs and an umbrella.
* For your daughter: skirts; blouses, slacks, dresses, sweaters, pants that she likes (dress, skirt and blouse, slacks and top must be worn in all churches or you could be turned away. No bare shoulders. no shorts are allowed)
*For you: pants:dockers; dress/ casual pants;polo shirts, sweaters, etc.
*phrasebook and small dictionary
In regards to necessities, you can purchase them in Italy. Do not bring any shampoo, etc. These things take up room in your baggages and you can purchase them in Italy like you can here.

Check out the links about Traveling in Italy and Important Information in Italy
http://www.impariamo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1000
http://www.impariamo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1794


Here is some other information to check out.

http://www.impariamo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1157
http://www.impariamo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1156

I have written a lot of helpful information about things to do and travel tips etc in these links.

Here are some additional links to check out.

Florence
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... scany.html
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2 ... do-i-rec-y
http://goitaly.about.com/od/florenceita ... orence.htm

Rome
http://rome-hotels.tripadvisor.com/Attr ... Lazio.html
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2 ... gs_to_do-i
http://goeurope.about.com/cs/rome/a/rome_free.htm

Venice
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... eneto.html
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2 ... gs_to_do-i

Siena
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... scany.html
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2 ... gs_to_do-i

San Gimignano
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... uscany.htm
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... scany.html
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-6 ... gs_to_do-i

Pisa
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... scany.html
http://www.behindthetower.com/en/pisa/sights/

Assisi
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... mbria.html
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions- ... mbria.html
http://www.initaly.com/agri/porchia/places.htm


These links are very good Just type in the cities where you will be visiting and you will get a lot of information on them.

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Europe/Italy/
http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/article ... eing-Guide:-
http://www.initaly.com/toc.htm


Christmas in Italy

http://www.initaly.com/regions/xmas/xmas.htm
http://english.firenze.net/
http://english.firenze.net/turismo/cm_d ... tegorie=92
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide-2 ... florence-i
http://www.florencevillas.com/newslette ... er_16.html
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/347785
http://ask.metafilter.com/54986/Christmas-in-Florence

If I can be of anymore help, let me know.
Roby
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Re: Travel Tips

Post by timLA » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:09 am

Rome - Six months wouldn't be enough in Rome - see the major things,
but especially the Pantheon, the Ghetto, Ara Pacis, the market in Borgo Pio, Cola di Rienzo

Florence - Major things, but SANTA CROCE!!!!! Medici Tombs!!! Galileo's finger at the Science Museum!!!!

Venice - Major things + Burano + Murano

Greve - underground wine store with tasting!

Assisi - The Roman fort above the town, upper and lower basilicas - enjoy the views! The bookstore in the basilica is nice.

What to wear - assume "winter in San Fransisco"

I am particularly interested in suggestions for how to spend Christmas. - not as commercial - see all of the presepi - Rule #1 in Italy - never walk by a church without going in - you'll find great stuff. Try to go to a Christmas concert. Buy a "Tre Marie" panetone and eat it with your daughter!
Una mucca dice all'altra "Hai letto della "mucca pazza"? L'altra dice "Sì, ho sentito. Che fortuna che io sono un pinguino!

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Post by polideuce » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:37 am

Visto che si cita il Panettone milanese:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panettone
http://italianfood.about.com/library/rec/blr0946.htm
così hai un'idea di cosa c'è dentro.
Personalmente l'uva sultanina non mi piace particolarmente e preferisco mangiare a Natale il Pandoro veronese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandoro
http://www.italianmade.com/recipes/recipe383.cfm ... visto che hai la possibilità di essere per Natale a Firenze prendi in considerazione l'idea di seguire la messa natalizia di mezzanotte: dovrebbe essere particolarmente suggestiva.
Comunque controlla il mese prossimo questo sito: http://english.firenze.net/ , c'è anche la versione italiana :) , così hai un'idea precisa di quali manifestazioni ci saranno e di cosa organizzeranno per Natale a Firenze :)

ops...come non detto: c'è già il programma natalizio fiorentino: http://english.firenze.net/turismo/cm_d ... 5782fb6bb3

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Post by charlene » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:29 pm

Rule #1 in Italy - never walk by a church without going in
D'accordo!!!!! Siamo stati a Roma tre volte e siamo restati vicino al Pantheon. Acanto l'albergo era una chiesa semplice, non troppo dramatica. Ogni giorno era necessario di passare questa chiesa per arrivare dappertutto, ma non abbiamo dato mai un'occhiata. Che peccato perché ho scoperto troppo tardi che la chiesa dentro é magnifica, un capolavoro dal pittore Andrea Pozzo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Pozzo[/i]

Ora non vedo l'ora di ritornare a Roma!
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Post by timLA » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:12 pm

charlene wrote:
Rule #1 in Italy - never walk by a church without going in
D'accordo!!!!! Siamo stati a Roma tre volte e siamo restati vicino al Pantheon. Acanto l'albergo era una chiesa semplice, non troppo dramatica. Ogni giorno era necessario di passare questa chiesa per arrivare dappertutto, ma non abbiamo dato mai un'occhiata. Che peccato perché ho scoperto troppo tardi che la chiesa dentro é magnifica, un capolavoro dal pittore Andrea Pozzo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Pozzo[/i]

Ora non vedo l'ora di ritornare a Roma!
:!: :D Roma! :!:
La mia città preferita nel mondo...(dopo San Francisco! :D )

Regola di Tim #2 - Dovresti "mangiare" Roma in piccoli bocconi...
:lol:
Una mucca dice all'altra "Hai letto della "mucca pazza"? L'altra dice "Sì, ho sentito. Che fortuna che io sono un pinguino!

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Post by Netminder30 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:19 am

Roby, Tim, Polideuce e Charlene,

Grazie mille per le vostre risposte! Mi dispiace di non ringraziarvi prima. :( Apprezzo davvero tutto l'aiuto che mi avete dato.

Roby, grazie per i tuoi suggerimenti riguardo a cosa dovremmo vestirci.
I molti link sono anche molto utili. Mi sono divertito a leggere i sondaggi di viagiare (Travel Surveys).

Tim, grazie per suggerire alcuni posti da vedere a Roma, Firenze, Venezia, Greve, etc.. Ricordarò la tua prima regola "Never walk by a church without going in"!

Polideuce, grazie per suggerire il panettone ed il pandoro. Credo che anche a me piaccia il pandoro più che il panettone. Mi piace molto l'idea di seguire la messa natalizia di mezzanotte a Firenze. Potrebbe essere un'experienza speciale.

Charlene, grazie per condividere la tua experienza a Roma.

Grazie ancora una volta, tutti! :D

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Post by Netminder30 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:52 am

Is there anyone in the forum who would be kind enough to check my post above (the one dated November 25) for this topic and let me know if there are any errors? I am trying to improve my Italian and want to be aware of any mistakes I have made.

Thank you very much for your help.

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Post by Ember » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:22 pm

cosa dovremmo vestirci. --> COME dovremmo vestirci
I molti link sono anche molto utili --> anche i molti link sono utili (meglio mettere "anche" prima)
Ricordarò --> ricorderò
experienza --> esperienza
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Post by Netminder30 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:17 am

Ember, grazie mille per le tue correzioni. Sono grato per il tuo aiuto. Mi sorprende che non ci siano stati più errori! (Correct use of the congiuntivo passato here?) Grazie ancora una volta. :)

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Post by Ember » Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:04 pm

Io direi più: mi sorprende che non ci siano altri errori :)

Ci sono piccole imperfezioni ma non sono errori, ad esempio: mi dispiace di non ringraziarvi prima in realtà sarebbe "mi dispiace non avervi potuto ringraziare prima".

viagiare = viaGGIare (a typo?)

grazie per suggerire --> "grazie per aver suggerito" è più corretto, e anche "per aver condiviso"... insomma, il presente va bene solo perchè in realtà i messaggi sono tuttora scritti li, altrimenti bisogna usare un tempo passato :)
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Post by keithatengagedthinking » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:14 pm

You'll probably be in Rome just a few days, but I would suggest that you purchase the National Geographic Guide Book To Rome. It's about $20, but it's the best guidebook out there. And since you probably already have your accomodations booked, and you're with a tour group, you won't need endless pages of places to stay (although I could be wrong).

I'd hit the big churches in Rome: San Pietro, San Giovanni in Laterano (if you're up for it, you can climb the Scala Sancta on your knees - that's always fun ;) ), Santa Maria Maggiore, San Paolo fuori le Mura - they are amazing. Pantheon for sure, too. There are some smaller churches that have some great gems, too. In the guidebook that I mentioned, there are tons of things to see and do.

Try to see the Roman forum if you can, too.

I could go on and on... :)

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Post by Jen » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:39 pm

I also echo St. John's outside the walls, St. Peter's-climb the duomo, it's worth it!, Sistine Chapel-go early before the crowds, Coloseum, the world's largest McDonald's at the top of the Spanish Steps. Then there's Trevi fountain.

When I went to with a tour group, they all went off to Vesuvius and my husband and I stayed in Rome. It was empty of tourist. Very nice. Do know that you are with a tour group but you can choose to do something different. :)

Watch out for the little pick pocketers. If you see a group of kids, who look like they are up to no good, coming straight towards you...run the other way!

We saw one in the subway. She came and sat right next to my husband, eyeing his pockets. :) Just keep your eyes open.

Enjoy your trip!!!!

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Post by Netminder30 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:49 am

Grazie, Ember, per le correzioni. Apprezzo davvero tutto l'aiuto che mi hai dato. Sei molto gentile.

È chiaro che ho molto da imparare all'italiano! :(

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Post by Netminder30 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:00 am

Keith and Jen,

Thanks for your suggestions regarding sites to see in Rome. Keith, I'll check out the guide you mentioned, although I can safely say I will pass on climbing the Scala Sancta on my knees! Thanks for the suggestion though. :)

I just got my tour itinerary so I can start planning things to do during my free time. Is "going it alone" hard to do? Is it generally easy to get around in places like Roma, Firenze and Venezia? Are there legitimate tours offered by locals or are tourist traps common?

Jen, thanks for the warning on the crime. That is something that definitely need to be aware of because I will be with my 14 year-old daughter and may appear to be easy prey for a would be thief. We plan to be very careful.

Thanks again for your input.

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