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eats shoots and leaves"

Post by stefano2 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:57 pm

In england a book came out called "eats shoots and leaves" about good gramaer but without making it boring is there a italian equivalent???
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Post by maelström » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:51 pm

stefano2 wrote:In england a book came out called "eats shoots and leaves" about good gramaer but without making it boring is there a italian equivalent???
If you don't want to refer to Luca Serianni, one of the most authoritative sources about the Italian language, there is a very nice book written by Massimo Birattari: "Italiano. Corso di sopravvivenza". It is written in Italian, so you must already know a bit about the language.

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Post by Peter » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Eats, Shoots and Leaves, by Lynn Truss is an excellent book on how easy it is to mess up on punctuation and goes on to explore ways in which one can avoid such pitfalls.


@ Maelstrom, thanks for the suggestion. I for one may well look into it.

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Post by stefano2 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:38 pm

Perhaps you can suggest a italin grammer book in english that you like peter?
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Post by Pacentro08 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:21 pm

Hi again Stefano

A good little grammar is the Harrap's Italian Grammar. I had a quick look on Amazon and it looks like there's only a US reprint available these days, but it was written by good UK university people - Italian and British - and it costs pence. There's what looks like an updated version at this link that lets you look at a good number of pages to get an idea. Again it's very cheap.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Harraps-Super-M ... 723&sr=1-4

Others have mentioned on other threads Martin Maiden and Cecilia Robustelli's (can't remember the title) and Anna Proudfoot's Modern Italian Grammar. Again, all good scholars, but I'm not sure you'd need to buy one of these. Dip into at a library, maybe. I've always liked Lepschy and Lepschy's The Italian Language Today for the finer points of grammar and the chapters on the history of the language, but again it's probably only something to dip into.

The grammars I recommend for my adult students these days are in Italian, but they provide some of the clearest explanations I've ever seen and have interesting activities/exercises for practice. They are Susanna Nocchi's Grammatica pratica della lingua italiana and the more advanced Grammatica avanzata della lingua italiana. In fact, I have a feeling there's an English version of the first one. Go to www.almaedizioni.it - the site gives you a sample to download so you can try before you buy.

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Post by Peter » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:07 am

Steve, sorry not to have replied before this. Susan had given you a lot of good advice. I have Anna Proudfoot's book Modern Italian Grammar, and find it very useful. It is pretty extensive and is split into Parts A and B. Part A is a guide to the grammatical structures (nouns, verbs, etc) while Part B shows how to use them in communication. See if your local library may have it. Also check it out on Amazon - I can't remember if it's one that you can look inside, like so many books on Amazon these days.

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Post by stefano2 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:09 pm

Hi thanks peter dont fancy susans 2 suggestion had a look looks like desinged for kids but the hapers mini looks good will look at your suggestion too thanks
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Post by Davide » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:32 pm

stefano2 wrote:Hi thanks peter dont fancy susans 2 suggestion had a look looks like desinged for kids but the hapers mini looks good will look at your suggestion too thanks
Don't be put off by the covers on Nocchi's two books - they certainly aren't for children. I have the advanced one and it's excellent.
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Post by stefano2 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:55 pm

nah wasnt covers its how you do exscises looked inside on amazon
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Post by -Luca- » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:15 pm

stefano2 wrote:nah wasnt covers its how you do exscises looked inside on amazon
hi Stefano :)

Nothing against you my friend, but may I ask you to write a bit clearly?

I can't understand all the things you write :oops:

Grazie, un abbraccio :P
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Post by Roby » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:27 pm

Luca84 wrote:
stefano2 wrote:nah wasnt covers its how you do exscises looked inside on amazon
hi Stefano :)

Nothing against you my friend, but may I ask you to write a bit clearly?

I can't understand all the things you write :oops:

Grazie, un abbraccio :P

Luca...

Nah... is slang for no.... It was not the covers that looked childish. It is how the exercises are done . Looked inside the book on Amazon...

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Post by stefano2 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:40 pm

I am sorry luca should write more clearly and will do in the future
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